Talk:Hawaii

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European arrival

I feel this "European arrival" section under "History" needs a good review. There are broken links, use of questionable sources and (imo) giving undue weight to pre-Cook contact. As a first step, I want to split the European arrival into two sections called "Speculation of European contact before 1778" and "First recorded contact by James Cook". Thoughts or comments? Jp2207 (talk) 20:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Offer for use SVG Map in this article:

Map of the State of Hawaii in SVG format, free for any use without restrictions. On the map: Counties with names, main roads with numbers, Urban Areas, Military Areas, water bodies. The map can be easily edited with any vector editor.

Vector Map State of Hawaii, USA, main roads with numbers, colored counties with names SVG

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_State_of_Hawaii,_USA,_main_roads_with_numbers,_colored_counties_with_names_SVG.svg Kirill Shrayber (talk) 06:09, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

In what location, presumably one that's not sufficiently illustrated, would it serve the article? Remsense ‥ 论 06:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I am not an editor of articles in Wiki. I draw maps. I just offer maps I have created for publication - for authors and editors of articles in Wiki. The maps are quite high-quality, mostly small in size (state maps) and convenient for use.

You can accept this map for publication, or reject it. There is still hope that another editor of the article will like it more))) I have no bad or selfish intentions. It just seems VERY strange to me that in articles devoted to the States of the USA - there are no maps of these states. Kirill Shrayber (talk) 07:09, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

If you're not interested in how your maps would fit into a specific article, then please refrain from behaving disruptively as you have been—as these pages are meant to discuss specific improvements to a given article, not advertising your work generally. Remsense ‥ 论 07:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Summerize impact of 'first contact'

The latter part of the second paragraph here Hawaii#First recorded contact (starting "These visitors introduced diseases ...") states that one effect of the contact was the decline in native population as a consequence of imported disease. Two immediate issues:

• the source cited (brittanica.com) makes no mention depopulation or disease
• another source (from US Congress) seems a political (non neutral) publication

Based on source 'Kuykendall' and a PDF already cited elsewhere the article (Native Hawaiian Population Enumerations), I have created an alternative few sentences which, I hope, give a description of the general impact, for good or bad, though still quoting that it was "a foreign invasion" (culturally and demographically). Thus:

"The impact of foreign visitors has been described as an “invasion” which “little by little overwhelmed the old culture of the islands”.[Kuykendall pg 12]. Native Hawaiians were vulnerable to Eurasian diseases for which they had less resistance.[citation needed] During the 1850s, measles killed a fifth of Hawaiʻi's people.[same citation as now]. Forty years after Cook’s arrival, it is estimated that the native population had declined by half and continued to decline throughout the 19th century. [Native Hawaiian Population Enumerations pdf] Meanwhile, the foreign resident population slowly grew; foreigners brought iron tools, manufactured items and household utensils; they also introduced firearms, alcohol, tobacco, livestock, non-native plants, and, inadvertently, insects previously unknown to Hawaii such as mosquitos.[Kuykendall pgs 26-28]"

I am hoping some other editor can find a source for the statement about native Hawaiians being vulnerable to Eurasian diseases. Objections or other feedback? Jp2207 (talk) 00:51, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Done (slightly modified from the text I had proposed). Jp2207 (talk) 21:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Please mention it being the latest state.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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On August 12, 1959, Hawaii became the 50th US state, and there hasn't been any US state since. OfficialWatchOS7 (talk) 12:41, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.